Opera 9.5 Release Candidate (RC) Released

tested it against all previously mentioned mainstream sites that dont work.

all of them are still broken

ff3 will have a field day when opera 9.50 launches in this state

9.2x users will loose their settings, their mails, their bookmarks. with nothing to keep them to opera theyll all switch to ff3.

and discover that gmail looks a bit different now than that in opera.

sorry Opera, this time you are doing something even more stupid than usual. and you never learn from your mistakes.

Sorry “nobody” this is just a lame, fanboy posting. First of all you might have taken the trouble to list the “all previously mentioned mainstream sites” that don’t work in Opera. Secondly if you check http://nontroppo.org/timer/kestrel_tests/ and run the tests against FF3 rc2 you still find that Opera 9.5RC is outperforming Kestrel in all but the faux raytracer. And if you use zoom in FF, you’ll see Opera win that test too.

And why will 9.2x will lose their settings, mail and bookmarks? 9.5 actually upgrades 9.2x perfectly.

Using gmail as a benchmark for deciding your browser is a dumbass move. Of course, you like google indexing all your email and profiling you and selling that data to corporations for targetted advertising.

If you want to spend days and weeks setting up every copy of FF you use fair enough, with O it’s all there out of the box. One install and you’re right at home.

You obviously prefer FF and that’s fine, from where I sit I need to use all the browsers and Opera still rules the roost I’m afraid. FF is an excellent browser with its own merits, but rubbishing Opera is just lame. It’s faster, more intuitive, more standards compliant, more secure and more feature rich.

Remember also that Opera had all the features you like in FF first.

Frank, yes its bad. I dont like that when viewing bookmarks it even doesnt have icons, just stars. Its like a painfull web experience now because we have to read EVERYTHING.

Some of the issues listed here as ‘bugs’ don’t seem to be affecting the 3 systems that I have 9.5 installed on.

- I do see icons in the bookmarks, though I am not sure why some bookmarks don’t show icons
- the “Show thumbnails when hovering tabs” has been around for a while. It is exactly what it says. Hover your cursor over a tab, and a thumbnail of the page pops up.

@Vygantas:

1. Change tab view mode or change skins. This is only a small issue with the new skin.
2. Never saw this. Did you install clean or update an old(er) profile?
3. Again I’ve not seen this. Maybe that one’s worth a bug report, especially if it’s unique to a site/mimetype.
4. Again, I didn’t see this behaviour. Maybe it’s site specific. Try Prefs..Advanced..History..Check documents set to “always”
5. This is a bug which has been reported but a fix didnt make it to the final. It has to do with the richedit control software being used by wordpress and others, and was discovered late. One of the problems of rushing out a quick release, but I think Opera has done this for strategic reasons with the upcoming release of FF3
6. Using Delete Private Data..Clear history of visited pages? That clears the whole list for me
7. enable single-key shortcuts in prefs..advanced..shortcuts

All skin related issues (eg. bookmark icons) can be easily modified to taste by choosing another skin, or reverting to the old 9.2x skin.

People updating Opera from the 9.2x series will see the favicon issue (stars instead of old favicons) because afaik Opera clears its favicon cache on update since it uses a different method. Favicons will reappear when you visit the bookmarks.

Trying to make software “perfect” is a near impossible task; especially with browsers there will always be some problems on some sites with some users’ setups. As a longtime user of Opera I would prefer a longer test phase with features frozen and just bugfixing, but this is not opera’s way. They prefer to assess release-worthiness on their perception of what the majority of users will experience, and on the basis of timing strategy to maximise its impact. Opera tend to respond very quickly to problems that are affecting a significant number of users, usually with a .01 release.

The trouble is, most people think that “release” means all known bugs fixed, sadly this is rarely the case in software today.

Getting the same issue on 4. Any page that redirects to itself doesn’t refresh properly. Same check boxes are already filled in etc… Would be interested to know if there is an option to turn this off. Refreshing does clear it but this seems to defeat its purpose.

Yea, populating of fields here might be a cookie that the site’s filling the boxes in from.

2. Try running a clean install/profile
3. I’m subscribed to quite a few feeds including this one, everything works fine here. Again, try running a clean profile, even just to test
4. Try changing the setting I gave you to “always”?
6. Again, whenever I’ve used DPD everything gets correctly deleted.

Sounds to me that your profile may have been scrambled at some point, which could account for a few of the above problems. Give a clean install/profile a try. If you’re running Win, temporarily rename your Appdata/Opera folder and restart Opera. In linux, it’s .opera in your home folder. Not sure about mac, sorry ;)

Opera 9.5 is a mess.

The new look is both inexplicable and horrible. Taking away a major visual cue (full-color icons) is a baffling decision. I found the new default skin to be unusable. They permanently broke the “Windows Native” settings as well– tabs are drawn differently and it’s difficult to tell which is the active tab– leaving one with no way to fully revert to 9.2′s Windows Native look.

Browser instability is the major reason I’m dumping 9.5, though. I understand that others have been having instability issues as well, with the browser suddenly monopolizing available memory. Opera 9.5 has crashed my entire computer on multiple occasions.

Thank god I still had the Opera 9.26 installation file on my hard drive. I just dumped 9.5 and reinstalled 9.26 (and thankfully was able to return all my bookmarks, cookies, browser settings, etc.).

I’ve been using Opera since Opera 3, and to me, Opera 9.5 is a disaster. What in the heck were they thinking, foisting this on an unsuspecting public?!?

6. Visited pages history are not deleteing for sure. This must be a bug!

I agree with Netsrak. I’m going back to Opera 9.26.