Comments on: Opera’s Browser Ballot Screen Results

By: pneumatyka

pneumatyka — Thu, 25 Mar 2010 06:42:47 +0000

” Opera is now among the best browsers out there.”

It always was :)

By: pneumatyka

pneumatyka — Thu, 25 Mar 2010 06:42:14 +0000

I’ve checked today – no increase at all, and gamius (owner of ranking.pl) is the biggest and most accurate internet stats company. There is even slight decrease. Probably some people downloaded opera, and then switched back to their previous browser (so they didn’t surf long enough), or maybe they are only “sunday” internet users. Besides maybe more time is needed.

In my opinion this whole EU regulation is evil (like all government intervention), and I hoped its impact will be minimum (most people which are used to IE will choose IE). I will be very happy if it turns out to be correct. :P

By: Eice

Eice — Mon, 22 Mar 2010 14:48:07 +0000

“Opera’s numbers are required by law to be correct because Opera Software is a public company. And besides, Norway has extremely harsh laws for these things (it’s a left-leaning country, after all).”

And those extremely harsh lawmakers have apparently yet to investigate Opera for its cock-and-bull numbers that nobody else can seem to corroborate.

All you have to back up your baseless claims are yet more baseless claims. The only thing worth learning from your post is the absurdity and volume of the nonsense you can spew while keeping a straight face.

By: Crackerflack

Crackerflack — Mon, 22 Mar 2010 11:10:14 +0000

Opera’s numbers are required by law to be correct because Opera Software is a public company. And besides, Norway has extremely harsh laws for these things (it’s a left-leaning country, after all).

So we know that Opera’s numbers are truthful.

That means 50 million desktop users, and another 50 million Mini users.

So Opera has at least 100 million active users.

Last time Mozilla said anything, they had 300 million active users. Let’s say they got another 100 million users in these few months.

That means that the facts show that Opera has at least 1/4 of Firefox’s user base in total.

The stats do not show this. Conclusion: The stats are nonsense.

And the fact that they claimed that Chrome had 2x Opera’s market share when Opera had more users than Chrome confirms that the stats are wrong.

By: Somebody

Somebody — Mon, 22 Mar 2010 10:40:16 +0000

Opera have released version 10.51 today. I think this version is much better than 10.5 and has fixed most of the problems with the previous version. Opera is now among the best browsers out there.
This is the same build as the last snapshot.

http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/2010/03/22/opera-10-51-for-windows-released

Also, Opera has now dethroned Chrome as the fastest browser on the peacekeeper page after scoring 13011 points. Opera says this version is upto 30% faster than 10.5 on the Peacekeeper benchmark :).
http://clients.futuremark.com/peacekeeper/results.action?key=3070

By: lucideer

lucideer — Sat, 20 Mar 2010 21:50:18 +0000

That would be the mind-numbingly complex distinction between the percentage-based market share and the hard-number-based download stats

100 million downloads can be a completely different percentage of the total at any given time, as the total number of internet users is generally increasing constantly. So number of downloads can go up, while the percentage that number represent can simultaneously drop.

Obviously, not everyone who downloads Firefox actually uses it (I have 3 different copies of it installed, for example – I use none of them for browsing) – market-share stats are based on actual usage on the web.

By: Eice

Eice — Sat, 20 Mar 2010 07:50:02 +0000

“Firefox recently claimed that they had 100 million downloads of Firefox 3.6 inspite of their market share declining continuosly for the past 3 months. I haven’t heard anyone complaining that they cannot be verified. So why should we not trust only Opera’s numbers?”

Simple. Because every credible browser usage statistics survey agree that Firefox has more or less ten times market share than Opera. Ergo, Opera’s self-reported numbers are fictitious bullshit.

By: ay

ay — Fri, 19 Mar 2010 20:19:19 +0000

I have been using it (and rather heavily too) at office since it came out. 10.50 is quite usable. Though I would call it a bit of a disappointment especially in the memory usage department.

By: Crackerflack

Crackerflack — Fri, 19 Mar 2010 10:41:41 +0000

Say what? Opera didn’t force anyone to do anything.

You are simply deluded if you think Opera has the power to force anyone.

The ballot screen was Microsoft’s own suggestion.

And Microsoft broke the law, so it doesn’t matter if it’s their operating system. You break the law, you face the consequences.

By: Crackerflack

Crackerflack — Fri, 19 Mar 2010 10:35:35 +0000

Eh. Opera got a new CEO this year. The new UI in 10.50 was made last year. The new designer was hired more than a year ago. The new UI for Mini and Mobile were also made last year (and they said something about having worked on Opera Mini 5 for two years already).

New vision with a new CEO? Hardly. Everything you see today is the result of the old CEO. The new CEO hasn’t had the time to do much yet.