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		<title>By: bingo007</title>
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		<dc:creator>bingo007</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 12:28:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yup.it was released several hours ago.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yup.it was released several hours ago.</p>
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		<title>By: Crackerflack</title>
		<link>http://www.favbrowser.com/opera-software-q4-2009-financial-results/#comment-88182</link>
		<dc:creator>Crackerflack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 09:02:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL @ n

&lt;blockquote&gt;webkit stole opera’ OEM market&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Actually, it&#039;s Opera that dumped OEMs to go more for the major network operators. OEMs only lead to one time engineering revenue, then licensing. With operators, Opera not only gets money licenses, but also revenue sharing deals, and bigger contracts with more products involved.

Also, operators can tell phone manufacturers what browser to use. So OEMs will end up using Opera anyway :D

&lt;blockquote&gt;more and more mobile/tv/settopbox runtimes use webkit instead of opera engine&lt;/blockquote&gt;
It&#039;s more that Opera doesn&#039;t have the resources to accept all these contracts that are flowing in. Opera has lots of contracts with major STB and TV manufacturers, though.

&lt;blockquote&gt;i expect this channel of revenue to dry out this year completely&lt;/blockquote&gt;
That&#039;s because you aren&#039;t paying attention. Opera is going straight to the major operators instead of OEMs.

But actually, some of Samsung&#039;s new high-end handsets use Opera&#039;s widgets and browser.

&lt;blockquote&gt;it is funny, that after years of neglecting desktop, Opera realised that it is time to invest in it, as world is running away faster and faster.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
What are you talking about? They have been investing in desktop since the day the company was formed. Oh, wait, you think &quot;adding features I don&#039;t personally want&quot; equals &quot;not investing in desktop&quot;? LOL. Have you any idea how many major contracts Opera&#039;s widgets have brought them.

&lt;blockquote&gt;same as continious ‘doesnt work’ issues with flash, silverlight, java, gears and miriad other plugins.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Flash works fine. As does Java. No one uses Silverlight.

&lt;blockquote&gt;and btw. they are a bit misleading about impact of strong currency. opera pays electricity bills in NOK, but buys hardware in usd. half of their staff lives in EU or is paid in EUR/USD anyway. this impact was there, but for sure it wasnt as big.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Ignorance is bliss. Most of Opera&#039;s expenses are payroll expenses. Most of Opera&#039;s staff is in Norway. Most of their expenses are in NOK.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL @ n</p>
<blockquote><p>webkit stole opera’ OEM market</p></blockquote>
<p>Actually, it&#8217;s Opera that dumped OEMs to go more for the major network operators. OEMs only lead to one time engineering revenue, then licensing. With operators, Opera not only gets money licenses, but also revenue sharing deals, and bigger contracts with more products involved.</p>
<p>Also, operators can tell phone manufacturers what browser to use. So OEMs will end up using Opera anyway :D</p>
<blockquote><p>more and more mobile/tv/settopbox runtimes use webkit instead of opera engine</p></blockquote>
<p>It&#8217;s more that Opera doesn&#8217;t have the resources to accept all these contracts that are flowing in. Opera has lots of contracts with major STB and TV manufacturers, though.</p>
<blockquote><p>i expect this channel of revenue to dry out this year completely</p></blockquote>
<p>That&#8217;s because you aren&#8217;t paying attention. Opera is going straight to the major operators instead of OEMs.</p>
<p>But actually, some of Samsung&#8217;s new high-end handsets use Opera&#8217;s widgets and browser.</p>
<blockquote><p>it is funny, that after years of neglecting desktop, Opera realised that it is time to invest in it, as world is running away faster and faster.</p></blockquote>
<p>What are you talking about? They have been investing in desktop since the day the company was formed. Oh, wait, you think &#8220;adding features I don&#8217;t personally want&#8221; equals &#8220;not investing in desktop&#8221;? LOL. Have you any idea how many major contracts Opera&#8217;s widgets have brought them.</p>
<blockquote><p>same as continious ‘doesnt work’ issues with flash, silverlight, java, gears and miriad other plugins.</p></blockquote>
<p>Flash works fine. As does Java. No one uses Silverlight.</p>
<blockquote><p>and btw. they are a bit misleading about impact of strong currency. opera pays electricity bills in NOK, but buys hardware in usd. half of their staff lives in EU or is paid in EUR/USD anyway. this impact was there, but for sure it wasnt as big.</p></blockquote>
<p>Ignorance is bliss. Most of Opera&#8217;s expenses are payroll expenses. Most of Opera&#8217;s staff is in Norway. Most of their expenses are in NOK.</p>
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		<title>By: Somebody</title>
		<link>http://www.favbrowser.com/opera-software-q4-2009-financial-results/#comment-88176</link>
		<dc:creator>Somebody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 08:36:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No article about Opera 10.5 Beta 2 ?</description>
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		<title>By: nvm</title>
		<link>http://www.favbrowser.com/opera-software-q4-2009-financial-results/#comment-88173</link>
		<dc:creator>nvm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 08:25:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Opera is just shifting focus to operators in order to increase profitability. If you remember Nokia, their Webkit endeavors have been complete failures, so that doesn&#039;t seem to work too well for everyone. And if you haven&#039;t heard about any new Presto shipments you haven&#039;t really been paying attention. Opera has been on several phones from companies like HTC lately. And they have said that more are coming up.

The Windows ballot screen won&#039;t be rolled out for real until mid-March, which gives them plenty of time to finish 10.5.

And they are not being misleading about currency. The NOK was amazingly weak a year ago, and amazingly strong now. Take away the currency effect, and Opera is growing very nicely.

Opera themselves are saying that most expenses are in NOK, and most revenue in USD and EUR. Maybe you should pay attention instead of making assumptions for once :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Opera is just shifting focus to operators in order to increase profitability. If you remember Nokia, their Webkit endeavors have been complete failures, so that doesn&#8217;t seem to work too well for everyone. And if you haven&#8217;t heard about any new Presto shipments you haven&#8217;t really been paying attention. Opera has been on several phones from companies like HTC lately. And they have said that more are coming up.</p>
<p>The Windows ballot screen won&#8217;t be rolled out for real until mid-March, which gives them plenty of time to finish 10.5.</p>
<p>And they are not being misleading about currency. The NOK was amazingly weak a year ago, and amazingly strong now. Take away the currency effect, and Opera is growing very nicely.</p>
<p>Opera themselves are saying that most expenses are in NOK, and most revenue in USD and EUR. Maybe you should pay attention instead of making assumptions for once :D</p>
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		<title>By: pneumatyka</title>
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		<dc:creator>pneumatyka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 06:22:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You love to complain, he?
You are so grumpy, that I assume you must be very old man.
How old are you? Eighty?
:P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You love to complain, he?<br />
You are so grumpy, that I assume you must be very old man.<br />
How old are you? Eighty?<br />
:P</p>
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		<title>By: nobody</title>
		<link>http://www.favbrowser.com/opera-software-q4-2009-financial-results/#comment-88150</link>
		<dc:creator>nobody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 05:51:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>webkit stole opera&#039; OEM market.

adobe HAD opera as their rendering engine, now they use webkit. more and more mobile/tv/settopbox runtimes use webkit instead of opera engine. to be honest, i havent heard of any new presto implementation.

i expect this channel of revenue to dry out this year completely.

it is funny, that after years of neglecting desktop, Opera realised that it is time to invest in it, as world is running away faster and faster.

they wont make it to the ballot screen with polished 10.50. so they will waste oportunity their own complaint created. opera 10.10 isnt a worty contender

not &#039;supporting&#039; html5 video (that is what average joe understands from this codec debacle) isnt helping opera either. same as continious &#039;doesnt work&#039; issues with flash, silverlight, java, gears and miriad other plugins.

and btw. they are a bit misleading about impact of strong currency. opera pays electricity bills in NOK, but buys hardware in usd. half of their staff lives in EU or is paid in EUR/USD anyway. this impact was there, but for sure it wasnt as big.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>webkit stole opera&#8217; OEM market.</p>
<p>adobe HAD opera as their rendering engine, now they use webkit. more and more mobile/tv/settopbox runtimes use webkit instead of opera engine. to be honest, i havent heard of any new presto implementation.</p>
<p>i expect this channel of revenue to dry out this year completely.</p>
<p>it is funny, that after years of neglecting desktop, Opera realised that it is time to invest in it, as world is running away faster and faster.</p>
<p>they wont make it to the ballot screen with polished 10.50. so they will waste oportunity their own complaint created. opera 10.10 isnt a worty contender</p>
<p>not &#8216;supporting&#8217; html5 video (that is what average joe understands from this codec debacle) isnt helping opera either. same as continious &#8216;doesnt work&#8217; issues with flash, silverlight, java, gears and miriad other plugins.</p>
<p>and btw. they are a bit misleading about impact of strong currency. opera pays electricity bills in NOK, but buys hardware in usd. half of their staff lives in EU or is paid in EUR/USD anyway. this impact was there, but for sure it wasnt as big.</p>
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		<title>By: Dels</title>
		<link>http://www.favbrowser.com/opera-software-q4-2009-financial-results/#comment-88108</link>
		<dc:creator>Dels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 01:20:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s true that we in Indonesia was one of the biggest Opera user base (beside Rusia) for both Desktop and Mobile (Mobile + Mini). Cheers for Opera</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s true that we in Indonesia was one of the biggest Opera user base (beside Rusia) for both Desktop and Mobile (Mobile + Mini). Cheers for Opera</p>
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