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		<title>By: nobody</title>
		<link>http://www.favbrowser.com/browsers-vs-6-video-sharing-sites/#comment-62312</link>
		<dc:creator>nobody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 05:40:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adobe has to adhere to Netscape Plugin Architecture, and they do. Opera always had problems with flash - on linux, on windows, everywhere. and it is opera itself to blame for majority of these problems. not adobe. Opera understands Netscape plugin standard a bit differently than all other browsers - plugins fail accordingly (silverlight is also the victim - slverlight fails even WITHOUT browser snifing)

&quot;Adobe is not alone… Google also does this with the exception that they do go the extra step and make sure their favourite browser, Firefox, was also coded for, but leaving Opera and other browsers with malfunctioning and broken pages, that are often fixed with a single line of UserJS(Greasemonkey)code that amature and proffesional coders pop out in under 15 minutes of figuring out what is wrong with the page.&quot;

have you ever checked what kind of fixes are there in userJS files? it is 50/50 for google and opera bugs. opera is to blame also, fascinating fact is, that google fixes their problems sooner or later, opera still hasnt got &#039;oncontextmenu&#039; support, so you CANT set directions on google maps. it is opera deliberate decision NOT TO support this event breaks more than one major page (all that use right click)

&quot;&quot;As for the GameTrailers page I have read that it is caused by custom Ajax code added to the webpage for the player that malfunctions when Opera tries to run it like IE because that is what the page was coded for.&quot;&quot;

any link for that? gametrailers for what ive checked is very neatly written page and i cant believe that they did something as brutal as not forked a code for IE and others..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adobe has to adhere to Netscape Plugin Architecture, and they do. Opera always had problems with flash &#8211; on linux, on windows, everywhere. and it is opera itself to blame for majority of these problems. not adobe. Opera understands Netscape plugin standard a bit differently than all other browsers &#8211; plugins fail accordingly (silverlight is also the victim &#8211; slverlight fails even WITHOUT browser snifing)</p>
<p>&#8220;Adobe is not alone… Google also does this with the exception that they do go the extra step and make sure their favourite browser, Firefox, was also coded for, but leaving Opera and other browsers with malfunctioning and broken pages, that are often fixed with a single line of UserJS(Greasemonkey)code that amature and proffesional coders pop out in under 15 minutes of figuring out what is wrong with the page.&#8221;</p>
<p>have you ever checked what kind of fixes are there in userJS files? it is 50/50 for google and opera bugs. opera is to blame also, fascinating fact is, that google fixes their problems sooner or later, opera still hasnt got &#8216;oncontextmenu&#8217; support, so you CANT set directions on google maps. it is opera deliberate decision NOT TO support this event breaks more than one major page (all that use right click)</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8221;As for the GameTrailers page I have read that it is caused by custom Ajax code added to the webpage for the player that malfunctions when Opera tries to run it like IE because that is what the page was coded for.&#8221;"</p>
<p>any link for that? gametrailers for what ive checked is very neatly written page and i cant believe that they did something as brutal as not forked a code for IE and others..</p>
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		<title>By: WolvenSpectre</title>
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		<dc:creator>WolvenSpectre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 17:33:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How is it Adobe&#039;s fault... hmmm, lets see... they have all the versions and the developers tools used on all of the major browsers and repeatedly it has gotten so that 1 or 2 browsers work and the others don&#039;t, and the ones that have the problems are the ones like Opera and Firefox who are the most standards compliant.

Coders who have broken the terms of use and have hacked on Flash and Shockwave have often found that the fixes take minutes to write and implement and almost always are caused by Adobe breaking their own standards or the webs so IE and certain modified versions of it work by coding for the breaking in standards and quirks in the IE code, which they then modify to work with all the other browser engines.

Opera makes their browser by the rules, and then codes for all the tweaks that break the rules in other browsers, as Firefox does to an extent.

Adobe is not alone... Google also does this with the exception that they do go the extra step and make sure their favourite browser, Firefox, was also coded for, but leaving Opera and other browsers with malfunctioning and broken pages, that are often fixed with a single line of UserJS(Greasemonkey)code that amature and proffesional coders pop out in under 15 minutes of figuring out what is wrong with the page.

As for the GameTrailers page I have read that it is caused by custom Ajax code added to the webpage for the player that malfunctions when Opera tries to run it like IE because that is what the page was coded for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How is it Adobe&#8217;s fault&#8230; hmmm, lets see&#8230; they have all the versions and the developers tools used on all of the major browsers and repeatedly it has gotten so that 1 or 2 browsers work and the others don&#8217;t, and the ones that have the problems are the ones like Opera and Firefox who are the most standards compliant.</p>
<p>Coders who have broken the terms of use and have hacked on Flash and Shockwave have often found that the fixes take minutes to write and implement and almost always are caused by Adobe breaking their own standards or the webs so IE and certain modified versions of it work by coding for the breaking in standards and quirks in the IE code, which they then modify to work with all the other browser engines.</p>
<p>Opera makes their browser by the rules, and then codes for all the tweaks that break the rules in other browsers, as Firefox does to an extent.</p>
<p>Adobe is not alone&#8230; Google also does this with the exception that they do go the extra step and make sure their favourite browser, Firefox, was also coded for, but leaving Opera and other browsers with malfunctioning and broken pages, that are often fixed with a single line of UserJS(Greasemonkey)code that amature and proffesional coders pop out in under 15 minutes of figuring out what is wrong with the page.</p>
<p>As for the GameTrailers page I have read that it is caused by custom Ajax code added to the webpage for the player that malfunctions when Opera tries to run it like IE because that is what the page was coded for.</p>
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		<title>By: nobody</title>
		<link>http://www.favbrowser.com/browsers-vs-6-video-sharing-sites/#comment-61989</link>
		<dc:creator>nobody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 07:52:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>for what? that full page zoom in any other browsers works ok, and fails in opera on gametrailers? how it is adobe&#039; fault?

place where opera really fails is youtube embeds. most of them wont play, saying &#039;sorry, that video is unavailable&#039;. yet you launch the same page in any other browser - and bang, it works.. that is also adobe&#039; fault?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>for what? that full page zoom in any other browsers works ok, and fails in opera on gametrailers? how it is adobe&#8217; fault?</p>
<p>place where opera really fails is youtube embeds. most of them wont play, saying &#8216;sorry, that video is unavailable&#8217;. yet you launch the same page in any other browser &#8211; and bang, it works.. that is also adobe&#8217; fault?</p>
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		<title>By: IceArdor</title>
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		<dc:creator>IceArdor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 23:39:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I blame Adobe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I blame Adobe.</p>
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		<title>By: nobody</title>
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		<dc:creator>nobody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 18:35:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>gametrailers on opera has a fair share of issues:

 - wmv downloads in opera often do not work, while the same file is downloadable with firefox
 - full page zoom does not work with their flash/video player, again works ok in firefox

there are several minor youtube issues in opera as well</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>gametrailers on opera has a fair share of issues:</p>
<p> &#8211; wmv downloads in opera often do not work, while the same file is downloadable with firefox<br />
 &#8211; full page zoom does not work with their flash/video player, again works ok in firefox</p>
<p>there are several minor youtube issues in opera as well</p>
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